Canuck tells the truth

CANADA HAS socialized medicine. It works well at times and at other times, it does not. Leftist Americans are fond of pointing to Canada as something to be copied, healthcare-wise. Those same people enjoy citing Sweden’s “democratic socialism” as worthy of imitation. Bernie Sanders is one of those people. He is a dim bulb.

I have addressed Sweden at least twice in the past. The first time was in 2016 when the disastrous effects of open borders was addressed. That is worth revisiting. More recently, I looked at Swedish socialism, which is a myth. You can revisit that right here.

Open borders has been a disaster for Sweden, and their socialism doesn’t exist. They did give it a relatively brief try years back till they realized their error and corrected it.

But today’s topic is healthcare, specifically Canada’s. The Canucks have one sort of problem with healthcare, and the United States has another.

As I’ve mentioned often, Mexico’s healthcare system is the superior of the three. We have a government-run system, which serves poor folks fairly well, and we  have a private system, which is excellent, but you must pay, but not nearly what you pay above the border. Our government system has worsened since the nincompoop, populist president who goes by AMLO took office 16 months ago.

And quite a few lower-income Mexicans use the private system. That’s how inexpensive it is, thanks to competitive capitalism.

AMLO vowed to give us a system like Canada’s. But what he’s given us so far is a worse government system. The private system still works nicely, however.

20 thoughts on “Canuck tells the truth

  1. In March of last year we ordered a Chinese dinner from a local restaurant. While in conversation I swallowed a piece of pork which got wedged in my throat. I tried various things to shift it, and my wife made a futile attempt at the Heimlich manoeuvre. I could talk but couldn’t swallow, and eventually I went to the ER at 2 a m. After filling out a few minutes of paperwork and handing my card over, medical, not credit. I was seen to. After trying various things to shift it failed, I stayed overnight and next morning had an operation to clear the obstruction.

    All my meds, the overnight stay and the short OP and anaesthetist and surgeon all covered under the magic card. I had a meeting with the surgeon a few days later, and she said while I was under they did several tests to get an idea of my health and all was okay. All covered!

    Like yourself, my eldest son is a journalist, editor. etc., for a news radio station in Vancouver. His girlfriend had an accident last year. Her Mercedes aquaplaned into a tree. It was a total write-off, and they had to cut her out of it as well, went by Helijet to hospital. She was lucky. She had two collapsed lungs, broken pelvis, broken thigh, multiple broken ribs, broken jaw and arm. Obviously, she was placed in a controlled coma until they could operate. All her operations (seven), her three-month hospital stay and all her support and therapy were covered.

    So, yes, it is true that for certain operations you may have to wait for surgery, but wait, a few years back I was staying in Ajijic for a few weeks, and I met up with a man of the cloth and his wife. They were on a sabbatical from their flock. One of them, Dan, had had a cancerous cyst removed from the side of his head. His health coverage only covered him for up to $10,000 in any two years. His doctor had referred him to a specialist in Chicago, and overall the operation and the referral cost just over the ten grand. A year later it was starting to grow back. While he was in Ajijic the previous year he was talking to a local doctor there, and she said she could do it for him at the local hospital. She performed the surgery and repaired the skin with a small graft off his ass and did some micro-surgery, gave him his pills, etc., for a couple hundred dollars. When his wife came to collect him, the doctor noticed she had some skin tags and offered to do them for her. That was very inexpensive operation, and his wife was thrilled naturally enough.

    I won’t tell you about my buddy and his wife while on holiday who hit a deer on his Gold Wing, they had to be airlifted in two different choppers to hospital a mere mile away, his military coverage was insufficient, and he left hospital early even though he had numerous breakages and was in a cast from head to toe. Overall, he lost his paid-off house, his business, truck and bike. He’s living out of a trailer and owes $700,000 and still has little to no insurance.

    We are both fortunate to have coverage where we live, it might not be perfect and certainly it could be improved upon. In Canada we do pay higher taxes. That is true, but I know that I didn’t lose my house just because I swallowed a piece of meat incompletely chewed.

    On a last note, the wife of a friend of my son was a nurse in Colorado who quit because she couldn’t deal with people being left to die in hospital corridors because they didn’t have health insurance!

    So, yes, we do have issues, but on the other hand we don’t have to wonder about your pal in the White House, do we? I wonder will the U.S. get a proper healthcare system after this fiasco is under control in two years! And to think that all those millionaire senators and governors all get free healthcare but not the Everyman in the street is beyond sad. So, yes, you can get an operation in the U.S. if you are willing to pay for it.


    1. Colm: Wow! That was a mouthful, for sure.

      First off, Canadian healthcare is not free, as the video points out. You pay, but it’s not directly to a doctor or hospital. It is taken out of your paycheck little by little over many years. Some people get that cash back more than others. Some, clearly, get back more than they paid in via taxes. I imagine your son’s girlfriend got more than she paid in, but who knows? It’s a crap shoot.

      The folks you encountered in Ajijic demonstrated the superior healthcare system we have in Mexico, the private system. The government-run system is dicey, as are all government-run systems, even Canada’s. By dicey, I mean sometimes it works great, sometimes it does not. That’s government healthcare for you.

      Looks like your buddy who had the motorcycle accident was under-insured, which is very unfortunate. Whose fault was that? Perhaps his. Can’t help noting that his insurance was military, which is to say government insurance. Obviously, he should have purchased more coverage on the private market, especially while riding motorcycles. His case is a textbook example of the need to be well-insured in the United States.

      As for that nurse who quit because people were dying in hospital corridors for not having insurance, that sounds like urban myth. People may die in hospital corridors, but I don’t think it’s for lack of insurance. If they do, there is something messed up somewhere. I would never defend the U.S. healthcare system.

      And my pal in the White House has tried to improve the healthcare mess left by the Democrats, but he has been stymied by Democrats and, in some instances, I believe, by Republicans too. It is a corrupt system. Trump is not a wizard.

      And no, Everyman in the streets of the United States does not have “free” healthcare like you Canadians think you do. There is no free healthcare anywhere. There is only taxpayer-funded healthcare or free-market, capitalist healthcare.

      It’s an imperfect world in which we live. But, of the three nations, Mexico does it best.


      1. Felipe
        I don’t think that many of us think it is “free.” We know we pay, but we also know that all citizens will be protected. There is absolutely no reason that a country like the U.S. should treat their citizens like they do when it comes to healthcare. As to your interpretation of Trump trying to fix what was there is also skewed.

        He will and has tried to destroy anything created by Barack Obama based on principle, racism, hatred, envy. You pick which one fits. Trump will go down as the biggest reason for the huge losses of life due to this pandemic, mainly due to his inflated ego and massive insecurities and his inabilities to create anything successful without destroying everything in his wake.


        1. Karlos: Quite the contrary. I believe many people think Canadian healthcare is free. Oh, maybe back in their noodles somewhere sits the fact that it’s taxpayer-funded, but they prefer to think of it as free. And it does seem free when you’re taking advantage of it.

          As for how the U.S. treats its citizens when it comes to healthcare, you and I are in lockstep. It’s pathetic.

          As for your take on Trump, Lordy, you have a serious case of TDS, and you’re not even an American! I am grateful you will not be voting in November.


    2. Colm, P.S.: Something clicked in the back of my noodle yesterday when you wrote that part about people dying in emergency rooms due to having no insurance. So I did a little quick sleuthing, which I should have done immediately. Doesn’t happen. A 1986 law requires all life-threatening conditions to be treated in emergency rooms, insurance or not. So whoever told you that was just swallowing some urban legend. And you did too. People die in emergency rooms, sure, but it’s not for lack of insurance. Now let’s quit spreading rumors!


  2. Emergency healthcare in Canada is overall very good, if it is not an emergency. Then there are only so many of each operation done each year, depending on the province you are in. Everyone has a story to tell. I have had good and have also had an operation done down here as I waited for several years to get it done up in Canada. It was a $600 touch and done in three days as the surgeon was busy on Monday, so he came in on Saturday and did it.

    My wife waited two years for a knee replacement, then was told she had put on weight while waiting and would have to lose the weight that she gained because she couldn’t walk anymore. Done down here in a week.

    There are many stories to tell. I paid a lot of money in taxes over the last 25 years, and now I pay my insurance in Mexico and color myself happy.


    1. Kirk: When you say, “Done down here in a week,” I assume you are speaking of Mexico, which makes sense.

      Mexican healthcare has it all over the systems to our north.


  3. It is hard to imagine that with what is happening in the U.S. with over 400,000 Covid19 cases compared to about 10,000 in Canada you could still find fault with Canada’s system. d.trump and the U.S. healthcare system, Americans are dying at an alarming rate. d.trump has blood on his hands


    1. Karlos: Canada has a population of about 37 million against America’s 330 million, so there’s a good part of the explanation for the difference in Kung Flu cases which, today, are about 19,000 (not 10,000) in Canada and 435,000 in the U.S.

      Yes, I find fault with Canada’s socialized medicine, and I find fault with U.S. healthcare too. Their problems are different problems. The point of the post is to point out that, in spite of so many people saying Canada’s system is great, it really isn’t. It’s good and bad, depending. It’s almost like all the folks who think Cuban socialist healthcare is great too, and it sure is not. I’ve been there. I’ve looked into grim Havana pharmacies.

      d.trump? I don’t get it. Well, anyway, Trump is not responsible for the severe problems with the U.S. healthcare system, which existed before he entered the Oval Office. He’s worked on improving it, but Democrats and some Republicans create so many roadblocks that it’s been a difficult chore. Maybe in his second term. Let us pray so.


          1. Correction to my comment. Canada has 12 deaths per million. China still lied and people died.


  4. As my aging body has begun to fall apart over the past few years, I’ve enjoyed cancer and a heart valve replacement here in the USA. Both of those were easily fixed with a robotic assisted laparoscopic surgery and a valve replacement through the arteries. Recovered from both in a matter of days. Both procedures done within days of diagnosis.

    Being an old guy, I’m covered by Medicare. Being mostly computer literate, I can keep track of what Medicare has paid by looking at my account online. It is scary to see the numbers. My total now approaches $400,000 for the two procedures enumerated above.

    In addition, my experience locally shows me that had I been treated for the valve replacement here in my little cowtown (where the cardiologists are quite well-respected) they would have pushed me to do an open-heart procedure. That would have been a completely different set of costs both financially and in terms of my personal pain and suffering.

    I would like to see our entire population covered by Medicare-For-All. I would not like to pay for it. And, I do not trust our Congress to design a system that any of us can live with.

    It’s a dilemma without an easy answer. By the time it’s got an answer, it will not be a problem for me.


    1. Ricardo: Yep, Medicare-for-All would be great in a perfect world where it would, by magic, be FREE.

      But there ain’t no free. Sad. And there’s the additional problem of government’s sad record (any government) of doing stuff well and efficiently.


  5. Every time a politician tries to improve the Canadian healthcare system, opposing politicians point to horror stories in the U.S. and scare the voters back to the status quo. I believe it’s similar in the U,S, where there are many Canadian horror stories politicians can point to. I can never understand why it has to be argued as either/or. There are many countries with more successful systems we could study. Maybe Mexico is one of them.


    1. Don Guillermo: Mexico’s healthcare system is better than both of them. That is my opinion after dealing with it for 20 years. It works great. The Gringos and the Canucks only need to look south for wise guidance.


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